<div></div><div><strong><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">骇人听闻性酷刑,土改残酷历史</span></strong></div><div><strong><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">重庆学者、</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">作家谭松7月30日在中文大学中国研究中心谈他所著的《</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">川东土改调查》。</span><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">七月三十日在中文大学中国研究中心的会议室,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">来自重庆师范大学的副教授谭松作《川东地区的土地改革运动》</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">专题演讲。室外是盛夏的艳阳,但室内却弥漫着一股不安的寒意,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">在谭松冷静讲述和墙上视屏图像中,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">土改的种种酷刑展现在听者眼前,恐怖得令人脊背发凉。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">四川川东地区五十年代初中共土改血腥的真相对于文明世界中成长的</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">香港人实在是太过残酷了。</span><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">一位中文大学女教授听不下去,突然插话要求谭松"请不要再讲了!</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">"谭松有点愕然,然后一口回绝道:</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">如果我们不去正视苦难和残酷的真相,这样的历史就会重演。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">他还以德国纳粹屠杀犹太人的波兰奥斯威辛集中营为例说,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">这个集中营是很残酷的,但学校老师依然带领学生去参观,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">因为应该要学生知道真相。</span><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">事后交谈,谭松承认他当初调查川东土改时,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">那些血腥惨烈的场面他自己也难以承受,但他要抢救历史,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">拒绝让血腥的历史真实被吞噬和淹没。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">他在一篇文章中引用流亡瑞典的湖南作家茉莉的一句话说,"</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"></strong><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><strong>为了天空不再黑暗</strong>,<strong>必须先揭露黑暗。"</strong></span><strong><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">谭松演讲的川东土改,是指原四川省所辖的重庆市、万县市、</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">涪陵市、广安市和黔江地区,即大致今天重庆直辖市区域。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">谭松是重庆人,他在二○○二年开始调查川东土改历史,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">走访了十二个县市,访问了四百多个土改亲历者,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">包括当年的土改工作队队员、民兵、地主子女和知情者、</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">甚至还有受尽酷刑而活下来的地主,所有采访均做了录音录像。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">最后完成了一部土改专访录,共三十六万字,尚未出版。</span><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">川东土改在中共占领四川后的一九五一年开始。谭松指出,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">经过一年半时间土改彻底改变了中国两千多年的土地制度,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">不但摧毁传统中国农村的伦理和文化传统,消灭了农村精英阶层,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">还使中国农民沦落为无法自由迁徙的农奴,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">为中国带来长远的恶劣后果。他在调查中发现,川东是贫穷山区,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">很少良田千亩的大地主,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">土改前川东地主平均每人所有土地仅十四点五九亩。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">许多被打成地主的其实是自耕农,或只是相较富裕的农民,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">而且中共划分地主非常随意,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">甚至有当教师不需下田劳动也被打成地主。在最穷的巫溪县,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">一家有两个煮饭的鼎罐就被评为地主。他指出,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">死于文革的刘少奇领导土改运动,主张暴力土改,双手染血。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">为了建立新政权的权威,需要杀人立威,所以土改设立人民法庭,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">下放杀人权,鼓励杀人。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">一位当年土改工作队员戴廷珍接受他的采访说,"</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">批斗之后就是枪毙,我们每到一个地方都要杀人??</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">共产党要这样做才吓得住人。"因此对中共来说,"</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">土改必须是一场暴风骤雨,也必定是一场腥风血雨。"</span><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">利用地痞流氓施残暴酷刑</span><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">谭松在演讲中说,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">土改中最血腥残暴最恐怖下流的行径还不是斗争诉苦会,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">而是向地主逼浮财这个阶段,索要金银珠宝,逼不出来,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">贪婪的土改积极分子就使出种种丧尽天良的残暴下流手段和酷刑。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">诸如"背火背篼"(在铁皮桶里装满烧红炭火强迫背在背上)、"</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">抱火柱头"(把钢管烧红强迫人手抱)、吊木脑壳(</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">把头部用绳捆起来上吊)、"烧飞机洞"(</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">脱光女子的裤子用火烧下身)"点天灯"(在头上用粘土围一个圈,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">注入桐油点灯,或双手手心向上绑起,手窝盛满桐油点灯)等等?。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">一个地主媳妇交不出金银,被脱光衣服遭受碳烤活人酷刑,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">烤得奶子和肚皮往下滴油。</span><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /></strong><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><strong><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">土改积极分子民兵多是地痞流氓,暴力被合法化,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">使他们得以公开对地主女子施行残忍的性虐待。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">他们强迫未婚女子脱裤分开两腿被人摸下身,将木块、</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">铁条和脱粒后的玉米棒插进女人下体反复朝里捅。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">一位叫黎明书的男子回忆说,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">他的姐姐黎琼瑶当年二十出头的未婚女子,被逼交出洋钱,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">交不出先被暴打灌辣椒水,然后被扒光衣服用猪鬃毛扎乳头,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">无法忍受当天跳堰塘自杀。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">一位土改民兵连长李朝庚接受谭松采访说,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">土改时忠县有个未婚女子梁文华还未结婚,本身不是地主,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">因为是全县著名美女,就被十多个土改民兵抓去轮奸致死。谭松说,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">利用地痞流氓当革命先锋,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">是当年被共产国际派来中国发动革命的苏联顾问鲍罗廷发明的。</span><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">谭松在演讲结束时,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">将他调查到的死于土改的受难者名单一一在视屏上打出来。他说,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">每一位受难者都不应该被人遗忘。</span><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">采访艰辛受害者至今心怀恐惧</span><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">谭松提到一位台湾学者曾问他:你做这个调查,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">政府给了你多少资助?(全场大笑)谭松说,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">他所有调查都是自掏腰包,只要政府不因此迫害他就行了。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">他冒着风险自费调查是为了抢救历史,也是为受难者讨还公道。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">他家庭不是土改的受害者,父母都是贫下中农出身,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">但后来接触到真相,发现自己教育受骗,正义感被激发。</span><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">他说,他的调查非常辛苦,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">一是受访者分散在川东深山老林穷乡僻壤,又没有电话联络,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">走访非常不易。二是土改时代久远,现仍在世的当时人已寥寥可数。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">谭松听说一位饱受点天灯酷刑的女子冯光珍仍然在世,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">立即赶去采访。冯光珍当年十八岁,还是一个学生,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">因酷刑双手残废。谭松上午采访她,下午这个不幸女子就逝世了。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">三是恐惧,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">中国地主富农及其子女是毛泽东时代受害最惨因而恐惧感也最深的群</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">体,虽然毛泽东时代早已过去,但恐惧仍深,很多人不敢接受采访。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">作为采访者的谭松本人也很恐惧,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">因为他在之前做川东右派调查被重庆当局关押了三十九天,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">刚获释不久,而且是在保释期间,被勒令不能离开重庆地区,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">因此他是私下秘密采访。</span><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">土改因为涉及中共政权革命合法性问题,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">是中国现代史中最敏感的禁区,敢于触及的学者少,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">而且多是以资料做研究,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">像谭松这样深入一个地区大规模采访做口述历史的可能绝无仅有。</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">现场主持的中国研究中心副主任高琦指出,</span><wbr style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;">谭松是首位在他们中心讲土改的大陆学者。</span><br style="color: #500050; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; background-color: #ffffff;" /><br /> </strong></div><div></div>